Why does he look as if he's gonna start crying???

LOL! it's true -it looks like the man is in a great deal of pain. Thanks for the pics everyone- they're wonderful!! :)

Maybe there's somethin about weddings that he doesn't like....

(Evelyn) Why does he look as if he's gonna start crying??? Too much emotion, perhaps? I cannot stand the other photo, though. I wish him happy by all means, but cannot forgive him his marriage...grrr (I would, on the other hand, have loved it if he and Jennifer had married and lived happily ever after!). Do not even get me started on that subject!

(Lidya)Do not even get me started on that subject! I feel tempted to say something about this because I never did before. Honestly, I was shocked when I heard he was going to marry and found it very difficult to accept when it happened. Tried to forget him, without success! And I still can�t look at his wedding photos without my heart bleeding.

There, I said it! There�s nothing like blurting out one�s most illogical, irrational and unfair emotions sometimes!! :-)

Evelyn, thank you for the wedding picture of Lizzie and the hatless Darcy. I have never seen it before; where did it come from? Please, please don't say it came from the series; I know I'm not very observant, but... I watched some of P&P last night (inspired by this fresh drooling). Having seen so many other CF films and now MLSF, I am struck by how different he is as Darcy, and it's more than the makeup and hair dye. And after so many viewings, I still can't get over how different he looks from scene to scene.

(Elena) There�s nothing like blurting out one�s most illogical, irrational and unfair emotions sometimes!! :-) But I think in this place your feelings are the most rational and logical! I agree with you...I try not to think about it, it puts me in a bad mood.

Well, now...we all have to come to grips with reality,sometimes...and after all It's Mr. Darcy who is our hero and he will always belong to each and every one of us for evah and evah!! (Lidya)I would, on the other hand, have loved it if he and Jennifer had married and lived happily ever after!) LOL..well, that's because each one of us is "Lizzie" in P&P...and we feel betrayed.We get a lot of mail from guys who have crushes on "Lizzie"... Ironically, most of them do not like Colin ...you should hear what they call him!! But in real life it would not have worked between them...for starers, they are v. much alike.Had they married, they would have gone to live in a cave in the Hebrides!! (Lynda)Lizzie and the hatless Darcy. I have never seen it before; where did it come from? I dragged it over from Jennifer's website under the P&P segment. But I am sure Meluchie's FOF website has it. I'm gonna post this on 119 also, but she has recently reorganized the photo webpage and it's terrific...new format. **** (Elena)There, I said it! There�s nothing like blurting out one�s most illogical, irrational and unfair emotions sometimes!! :-) And I'm glad you did...this is the place ..with all your kindred souls.:-)

I wish I could read lips. In the last scene just before he kisses her he says something but I can't tell what. I took my back up tape up to Ketchikan so my daughter in law could see it and guess what. I am back in Florida and it is still in Alaska. I got up one night and went down stairs and there was Michael watching it again. He said "Hi Mon, I couldn't sleep so I thought I would get up and watch Lizzie and Darcy get together at last.

Wow, you really did something right with him. A guy actually watching it by hinself. Had good Mom!!!

...and all this while I thought the painful expression was due to her not yet having relieved his suffering...?!

painful expression was due to her not yet having relieved his suffering...?! LOL, Marcia! And in that case, he's wearing that pained expression in the whole scene after the wedding, at least until he gets some relief with the kiss. Watch it again! I did last night. I love the picture Evelyn posted because it's hatless. I suppose it wouldn't be proper for him to be without it but I so wish a gust of wind had come and blown it off his head so we could see more of those curls. Ditto for the proposal scene. I confess in some scenes I think his face looks scrunched under that smokestack on his head.

The 16 year old twins watched it at least three times in the two weeks we were there. Good taste, "Wot".

Lucie, Good taste, Indeed! Heide, I wish I had been directing his last proposal scene. He would have removed his hat (gentlemen always remove their hats to a lady) and plced it over his heart as he told her that his feelings remained unchanged. It would have been perfect! I shall see how much suffereing she is going to relieve by the end of the night...(getting out the video for some serious study)...What an enchanting thought!

Whoooee, thanks for these pictures, Evelyn! Not to detract from the drooling (as if that's possible), but has anyone else noticed the difference in Darcy's skin tone just above his collar? Go back to post 593 to check it out. It looks as though his makeup was a bit short, since he's leaning over. No matter, they're still the most beautiful newlyweds ever! LOL over the carriage pic from his real wedding (aka "the tie that took over the world"). I'm sure he's not smiling because he's too busy trying not to eat his knees. He's folded up like an accordion! I, too was a bit put out by his marriage...but I had to knock myself in the head and say "For God's sake, I'm married!" That wasn't the case when I was 13 and in l-u-v with David Cassidy ;-P Marcia, if he had put that hat over his heart in the proposal scene, there wouldn't have been room for Lizzy in the frame. "Smokestack" indeed, Heide!

Have been looking at the pics again. Thanks Evelyn. In the one without his hat it looks like he's squinting in the sunlight. That or he has a small case of indigestion.

(Eileen)...has anyone else noticed the difference in Darcy's skin tone just above his collar? I had to do a double take on that but found there was a deep shadow cast by bright light (spot or reflector)to his left. Made it look awfully odd. Same problem with a shadow on his neck from the right during the Rosings piano scene. I, too was a bit put out by his marriage.. I must be the exception to the rule. Probably partly due to not being tied into any source of information until almost exactly a year ago, when I discovered the Net (and all else is history), so I missed the wedding by over a year. But I remember my initial feeling upon this discovery was one of relief! What little I knew of him before had had me worried that, at his age, he still apparently hadn't settled with someone who he could depend on and from whom he could derive support. I kept wishing that he would quit running around the world all the time and stay in one place long enough not to be the always-absent boyfriend! :-D.) I was SO glad to discover that he had found someone at last!... and I must admit that his taste in wives is apparently impeccable!! I was and am so happy for him because I wanted that for Colin-the-man more than I can say...(But this does not apply to any attitude I might have had toward Darcy...that was, and is, an entirely different kettle of fish!!) ...But I guess I don't confuse my fantasies with my perception of reality...I really wanted a stable relationship for him in real life. ( I suppose a y lack of jealousy on my part was due to the perfect understanding of the reality that that someone couldn't possibly be me!!). ;-D

Not indigestion...I still say it is the suffering that Lizzie has not yet relieved! And, are they not called "Stove-pipe Hats?" That's ok...perhaps he could have held it behind him and talked to her...*sigh*

(KJArt) I must be the exception to the rule...But I remember my initial feeling upon this discovery was one of relief! That makes two of us, my dear. :) I was pleased when i learned of his marriage... perhaps this is due in part to my not having 'a thing' for him, during his single days. Or at least, my not knowing if he was single or not during the early days of my obession... :) Not till i stumbled across Drool did i learn any of the particulars of his life. (Marcia) ...I still say it is the suffering that Lizzie has not yet relieved! Well, if Lizzie cannot do her duty, and relieve his suffering... i am more than prepared to do it for her. ;)

(EsBee)if Lizzie cannot do her duty, and relieve his suffering... i am more than prepared to do it for her. Get in line, Dear!!! My happiness for him on his marriage was also due to my unsuitability as a bride for him, as well. It is uch better than having stuff like Hugh Grant's escapades spread all over the gossip sheets, surely!

(KJArt) But I remember my initial feeling upon this discovery was one of relief...I really wanted a stable relationship for him in real life. This is precisely how I felt once logic took over. When I became aware of his existence (early '97) ODB and Livia were already rumored to be engaged. I was glad to see him settle down instead of sprouting kids all over the world ;-P Seriously (and a bit OT, but what the heck), I was also glad with Livia he put the end to his 'itinerant bachelor' lifestyle. I confess I was always curious as to why he didn't marry Meg when Will was on the way nosey,nosey,nosey. Regardless, I'm v. happy or him and impressed they were able to come to consensus about where to live. It couldn't have been easy constantly jetting from London to Rome to LA and back again (have profits fallen for British Airlines? He must have a bizillion frequent flyer miles!). The apparent decision to spend last year in Italy then settle in London must have meant sacrifice on both parts. Good for them. Now back to Darcy...his multi-colored neck in the kissing scene is quite apparent in the video. (Marcia) perhaps he could have held it behind him and talked to her...*sigh* Ummmm.

(Marcia) It is much better than having stuff like Hugh Grant's escapades spread all over the gossip sheets Absolutely. I was in pain when he got married because of pure and genuine JEALOUSY. But actually I�m very happy for the fact that his personal life is in balance and especially because the wife seems to be a woman with brains.

.....especially because the wife seems to be a woman with brains. ....And beauty, n' a pleasant personality, good sense of humor (..."not always"),looks gorgeous in all her clothes, wakes up next to ODB everyday ...and I bet she has $$$$ too.... Ya' know what? ... turning green ..I could learn to hate that woman :-D

*lol* It is taking all of my couth lessons to keep my sense of humor about the overly generously gifted and lovely and married-to-our-guy Livia. (Sucking in my gut and sticking out my proud chin in protest that I am so base as to think such things...)

(Evelyn) Ya'know what? ... turning green ...I could learn to hate that woman :-D Not I. I shall be ever grateful to that magnificent woman for getting him off The Weed, if for nothing else!! **Smeerp** hee hee

Oh heavens, YES!!! give the lady credit. She must have had something very special to replace his oral fixation....hmmmmm....;)

I shall be ever grateful to that magnificent woman for getting him off The Weed, I doubt she was the motivating force...since she currently smokes herself.

As my dear Lizzy said, (quoting loosely, you understand) my benevolence and good will towards Livia are all done away by seeing you all so full of both! I am sorry to say that I am irrationally jealous of her and cannot but feel cheated...Of course, I wish him happy and I am glad he has found someone he loves enough to have married, but cannot help to wish that his welfare depended upon myself rather than upon anyone else. This is all due to my insane infatuation with him. I am really a sen ible girl...

since she currently smokes herself. She does?? Where did you get that from, Evelyn? This is all due to my insane infatuation with him. I am really a sensible girl Lol! About as insane and sensible as the rest of us it seems. But you can always try to comfort yourself by thinking about the regrettable fact that he didn�t know you before he married Livia. That�s the essential point.....if he had known you, the story could be quite different!!...:-)

Livia and her friends and Colin's relatives were smoking inside the Donmar (even though it has a no-smoking policy) during the interval. ;-D

I withdraw all approval I heretofore gave to her. Unworthy!

Livia and her friends and Colin's relatives were smoking Sorry for continuing this tangent on Darcy's topic, but I can't resist another question---was she seen smoking or was it assumed in conjunction with that "not always" comment? If she is indeed a smoker, I give more credit to Colin for quitting. It must be very hard (unless he kicks her out of the house before she lights up;-))!

....-was she seen smoking or was it assumed in conjunction with that "not always" comment? She was seen smoking....and the "not always" comment was overheard by a fellow smoker standing next to her.I would bet the motivating force was his son. Young children are adamant about the ramifications of smoking. Get indoctrinated at school.

REALLY?? HORRORS!!! So THAT'S why he has been taking back-to-back projects all the time ... to escape the temptation to resume the wicked habit at home!! Then I am doubly impressed at his quitting and sticking with it!! Let's hope HE converts HER, then! 8-D That's what I get for making assumptions

(Evelyn) I would bet the motivating force was his son. Actually I always assumed that he quit smoking simply because of his job. Heavy smoking affects one�s looks and voice. You know, premature ageing, unclear skin, wrinkles, stuffed voice and bad condition in general. Karen, I didn�t know that the Italian crowd was smoking in the Donmar. Poor Colin, it�s terrible to have a smoker in the house when one tries to get rid of the habit.

(Evelyn) I would bet the motivating force was his son. I bet the motivating factor was the heavy weighting of life assurance companies against smokers. He is bound to have taken out further policies because of house buying, new responsibilities etc. and looking at the actuarial consequencies of being a smoker may have finally given him the strength to give up. "An old enemy" was what he called his habit, so he must have tried before.

(KJArt) That's what I get for making assumptions You weren't alone--I made the same assumption, likely comparing it to my own situation. My DH smoked for more than 20 years before we started dating. He quit because of me. Must have been that gas mask I wore whenever we went out :-D Whatever his reasons for quitting, I am exceeding glad he did and hope he meets his goal to keep off the *&%$ things. An old enemy, indeed!

Just throwing this one in OT.... Jennifer quit smoking last year too! She had one relapse that she confessed to...the day she moved into her new flat at the beginning of the year...said she smoked a pack one after the other.... But is clean now. I noticed in TRT others in the cast smoked onstage but she didn't despite the fact that the written play gave directions for Annie (JE) to smoke. Colin didn't smoke in 3 DOR either even though Mr. Greenberg had Walker smoking

Although it shocks me to see the sudden psychological violence to which smokers are being subjected in countries like the US and Canada, I am a nonsmoker and love it when someone quits. My DH quit too and kissing him is so much pleasanter since! ;-)

Someone posted this on the RoP, P&P board. "....has anyone noticed that in PP2 Darcy looks out windows frequently? I don't know if this was done on purpose, or just an interesting coincidence. It seems to be saying that Darcy longs to break free of his confined world and emotions" *** "....And did you notice, then, that at Pemberley, Lizzy looks out a window? She's thinking of being "trapped" by a certain someone...or remembering Netherfield?" ******* Well, what do you think? Was this a coincidence or was Andrew Davies trying to convey something about their subliminal feelings?

I will not let this ruin my opinion of Livia's other virtues and really good effect she seems to have on him and the great affection he seems to have for her. Mustn't throw stones ... lived in a glass house nearly thirty years before succeeding (didn't really try before ...), so Colin's record is probably much better than mine ... and she's still young and inclined toward the immortality theory, I'm sure. At that age they still are.

Re: Windows - It seems to be saying that Darcy longs to break free of his confined world and emotions" I like that idea, Evelyn. Is there a more self-contained creature than Darcy in P&P? (For myself, I prefer to use the film rather than the book for drool discussions.) The few times he does let his emotions get the best of him, it shocks us and everyone around him - Lizzy is shocked by his proposal, Caroline is shocked by his "Wot?" outburst. I like the idea of him wanting to brek free of his self imposed restraints and find the window symbol apropos. Of course, he could just like looking at his refl ction in the window (as in the mirror scenes). that at Pemberley, Lizzy looks out a window? She's thinking of being "trapped" by a certain someone...or remembering Netherfield?" Can't say I buy this. Lizzy has no need for the tight restraints on her character. I don't think Darcy ever made her feel trapped. Perhaps conflicted and confused. If Davies meant to convey that, it doesn't work for me in Lizzy's case but I do think the meaning behind the window gazing by Darcy is quite clear. BTW, the Garson/Olivier P&P was on TV a few nights back. I only watched a few minutes because it is such an abomination. I mean, the plot twist at the end involving Lady Catherine was horrific and I won't even mention the costumes. Found it funny to see Mary going into a Rare Books Shop . What kind of books would have been rare in 1810? Gutenberg's Bible? (just teasing)

Speaking of Lady Catherine, I was watching "The Merry War" last night, which what they renamed "Keep the Aspidistra Flying" and Barbara Leigh-Hunt was in it, looking/acting very Lady C as the boarding house owner...more so than as Robert Lawrence's mom. ;-D

...then at Pemberley, Lizzy looks out a window. She's thinking of being "trapped" by a certain someone...or remembering Netherfield?" (Heide)... Lizzy has no need for the tight restraints on her character. I don't think Darcy ever made her feel trapped. Perhaps conflicted and confused. But if you look at Lizzy being confined to her own character by her prejudice against Mr. Darcy...the he did trap her in a way. She has read the letter, listened to Mrs. Reynolds, looks at the portrait of this genuine man...then goes to the window.I can see where the window could be symbolic of wanting to break out of her current thinking. Of course, then she meets him by the lake ...and the rest is history:-)

Lizzy looks out a window? She's thinking of being "trapped" by a certain someone... But if you look at Lizzy being confined to her own character by her prejudice against Mr. Darcy...the he did trap her in a way. Or you could look at it this way.... she has trapped herself by her violent prejudice of the man and realization is setting in? Still not sure if I buy it though. She hasn't even been overcome yet by the wet shirt and I don't think she faces her prejudice until Lydia runs away. Simply pondering here.

Heide - I totally agree on the Olivier version of P&P...from the opening moments, not only the costumes, but the age of Greer Garson playing "Lizzie" was was SUCH a HOOT!!!! It was like a "middle-aged" Pride & Prejudice!!! And I'm not being TOTALLY prejudiced, since I turned 40 yrs. old 2 weeks ago!!! Whew!!! I understand from previous conversations "on-line" about the craziness of the "Olivier" version, the following:The producers were trying to capitolize on the "Gone With The Wind" fad, re:costumes (the cinched waists,etc.), but what a difference from MY favorite version, the Colin/Jennifer version!!! Appropriate ages, costumes, etc...!!! The hats in the Olivier version looked like "Personal Satellite Dishes", compared to the Colin version!!!!!

I think I will not participate in this conversation...I always feel the need to defend Olivier, when it was the director and producers who should be faulted. (slinking back to Geo unitl the Olivier problems go away.)

(Evelyn) I can see where the window could be symbolic of wanting to break out of her current thinking. I interpret Lizzy looking out of the window at Pemberley as symbolic of her having penetrated Darcy's private world, and looking from the inside instead of being a spectator looking in from the outside. This scene is particularly mentioned in the book, where JA even says that Lizzy moves from window to window, seeing the different views with delight. This gives me the impression that she realizes there are different ways to look at the events that have occurred. Davies was very smart in including this par , and I agree that the symbolism of Darcy gazing out is very sharp. My favorite is when he looks out at the carriage and says, in that wonderful voice of his, "Quite the contrary, I assure you."

Absolutely, I agree, Lidya...and I get chills just hearing him in my mind saying it. I will never get past Darcy, I am afraid. Imagine seeing him live in London!!! *Huge Sigh*

I agree with you Marcia. In 1947 (or whenever) they didn't know any better. I still contend, after looking at the closing credits, that the movie was in turn an adaptation of a stage play of the period ... it certainly plays like one. And if it's any comfort to the rest of you, Olivier's arm had to be twisted hard to get him to take this part (they had ways in those days ... ). :-)

MarciaH and everybody...I did not intend to "diss" Olivier... in fact, he is QUITE fabulous as Darcy....I was just surprised at the costuming...which obviously he would have had no control over.

You mean you did not like the dotted Swiss Chastity Belt masquerading as a hoop skirt on GG??!! LOL, neither did I in that movie!!!

(Marcia)I will never get past Darcy, I am afraid. Imagine seeing him live in London!!! *Huge Sigh* Ah, but we didn't meet Darcy in London, Marcia... We met this excellent actor and very pleasant bloke, Colin Firth...

I could not believe what they did you the P&P story in the O/G version. JA must have been rolling over in her grave. That lame garden party instead of the Netherfiled Ball, the changed ending where Lady Catherine put Lizzy to a test and passed with flying colors which then in turn induced LC to welcome Lizzy into the family-please let's get real. Longbourne looked like it was the town flea market with those birdcages and knick-knacks everywhere. The changes AD made to the CF/JE version are small compared o that version.

Paraphrasing ODB, he notes that a great deal of our unhappiness is caused by expectations. I think that is the case here. P&P0, as it's been called, is quite an enjoyable movie, as long as you watch it for what it is, not for what you expect it to be. If you expect it to mirror the efforts of the redoubtable Miss Austen, then you are bound to be disappointed. All Miss Austen did, as far as 40's Hollywood was concerned, was to suggest a premise, and they took it from there, no longer consulting the original. Movies averaged about 70 to 100 minutes at that time, and everything was expected to be wrapped up by then. Un er those constraints, they couldn't possibly deal with all of the plot elements nor wrap them up as neatly and completely as a 5-hr. mini series is able to do. I still watch it on occasion. I simply go along with the new plot line, dialog, etc., and sit back and enjoy some really good performances by the character actors of the day. I savor some especially witty remarks and also some elements of the original that were EXCLUDED from the A&E extravaganza, such as Mrs. Bennett's abrupt about-face in her opinion of Mr. Darcy once she realizes that he is to become her future son-in-law. I was really waiting in hope at the end of P&P2 for that scene to appear, and because I had that expectation, I was very disappointed in it on first exposure. But it grew on me with each new viewing until I "forgave" A. Davies for leaving such a savory part of of his version. (Same with Colin's performance ... I was expecting -- [that is, Hoping for] something else, and was not sure I liked this new version of Mr. Darcy. It was only when I took it for what it was, rather than what I wanted it to be, hat I began to appreciate this powerful and subtle performance [I must have -- I'm here aren't I?] ;-D ). Thus, I can appreciate P&P0 for what it is and P&P2 for what it is, which is entirely different. (I can also appreciate P&P1 for what it is, although I'm afraid one can carry this process only so far (Hee hee)). Still, all versions contribute something different. I think of P&P0 as a fluffy H'wood comedy, don't expect it to resemble the original in the least, and watch it again and again on that level with a great deal of enjoyment. And within the context of that story, I think Olivier's performance was wonderful!

(KJArt)Re: All versions of P&P.. Still, all versions contribute something different. Thank you for an insightful comparison. I shall have to remember that ...not only about P&P , but all remakes.

until I "forgave" A. Davies for leaving such a savory part of of his version. (Same with Colin's performance ... There's no way of knowing with absolute certainty what was really left out of the script itself. Some portion of the shot material must have ended on the cutting room floor. While blaming A. Davies for missing scenes and criticizing actors for apparently failing to enact something, do not forget that the final say was with the director, script and film editors, and - above all - the producers.

...And after that, a good perspective on my own prejudices. I think that is one great value of #98 -- it forces you to confront your own prejudices and expectations that you employ while viewing a work. These really do alter perception. Often we will "remember" a detail in a particular movie which was not there at all, but which we *wanted* to be there. :-D

(KJ) Often we will "remember" a detail in a particular movie which was not there at all, but which we *wanted* to be there. :-D And these are not *small* details, are they? ;-D

Well, going by the average level of responses in this group, I would tend to estimate some very extensive imaginations, resulting in substantial detailing, yes. This is an estimate only. ;-D

And of course we are very, very serious and have no ability to differentiate fantasy from reality. ;-) My fantasy of Darcy started as a 13-year old when I first read the book. Colin's portrayal was the only one that has fulfilled it. Couldn't abide P&P0 when I first saw it pre-Colin and I can't abide it now.

I hadn't even read the book until I saw the 1995 TV version. I am totally unable to visualize a different Darcy. Correction: I am able to visualize almost anything, but I can only accept Colin Firth as Darcy.

but I can only accept Colin Firth as Darcy. Quite right my dear. I think it's time for another Darcy fix. ;-)

Right - so once again, what's your order of preference? :-)

Since you asked, PP2 is the best. I have watched PP1 several times as well, but PP0 I don't even consider as P&P. Olivier is Heathcliff, Anthony Andrews(sp?) is Sir Percy(The Scarlet Pimpernel), and Colin Firth is Mr. Darcy. Punto e a capo!

Bene! E da capo al fine. So how about the best Darcy moments in PP2 again? In case anyone has doubts... ;-)

All?! My list is endless... ;-D (Oh, why does the series have to have all those other people? excepting Lizzy of course)

I think a rehash of Darcy moments would be perfect. How about a vote for all-time favorite? (Is that possible?) I submit three now. Add on, anybody and then we can put all entries up for a vote. And if no one submits any, then mine win! Hah! a) gazing at Lizzy playing after the tub scene b) at the piano at Rosings "You're perfectly right". c) running into her at Pemberley "And your parents are in good health?..and all your sisters?" Just realized that two of the three aren't even in the book. So you can still mess with perfection and come out ahead.

a) The look when he enters Longbourn before the second proposal. b) The smile when she plays the pianoforte in Pemberley. c) When they first touch hands at the Ball (for the dance). d) When they meet �On foot?� at Netherfield.

a) Darcy waiting to dance with Lizzy at Netherfield and then his bow. b) Darcy turning to look at Lizzy when the heads part at the ball. c) Darcy leaning his head back in the chair while writing the letter at Rosings. d) The looks of misery on his face as he leaves Hunsford after the rejection and right before he takes the pond plunge (I am a real sucker for Darcy in torment).

You guys have picked all the winners. I'll add : a) The look when he tenderly takes her hand at the Lambton Inn. b) When he takes her hand as she leaves Pemberley with the Gardiners...(and the cameras zoom in on the hands....is that erotic, or what!!) (They only **touch** three times in 6 hours....what torment!) c) The look on his face when he goes to visit her at Hunsford and is trying to be so casual and yet so shy...."you wouldn't want to always live near your family.."

And where does the sweaty, disheveled Darcy (post-dueling) who says "I will conquer this" rate on your list, Heide? ;-D

And the scene when he's talking to Bingley before leaving for London... "Utterly and completely...." "Do you need my blessing?... Then go to it!" And what about the avenging angel? Wandering through the streets? Knocking on Mrs Younge's door? Have we got them all now?

My God!! Ladies!! Omitting the very essence of Darcymania?? How can you?? a) His long-strided return to Pemberly from his little dip. b) the embarrassment when he comes face-to-face with his beloved moments after. c) The "Pride" debate at Netherfield. d) his long, analytical stare when she disagrees with him about "accomplished" women. e) The look he gives her after complimenting her "fine eyes". f) His eyes following her as she walks under his nose after the rejection at the Meryton Ball. And on. And on ...

And all the times he rides a horse: a) Racing with Bingley b) Meeting E at Rosings c) Galloping to Pemberley d) Galloping to Lambton e) Arriving at Longbourn with Bingley He rides so well! :-)

Lord! This is what happens to me when I stay away from Drool, all my favorite moments have been listed!! I shall add this, * Gazing out the window when Lizzy leaves Netherfield. "Quite the contrary, I assure you." * When he stands up to walk away from Mr. Collins at the ball, who ends up staring at his chest. * When he embraces Georgiana and presses her against him (I nearly fainted when I saw that in slow motion!) * "Every savage can dance" * "I should as soon call her mother a wit" * "WHAT?" * The sight of him in knee-high boots and tight breeches at Pemberley. Drooling myself away as I write...

Undressing before the swim!

And leaning on the mantle, dog at his feet, candle in hand, thinking of Elizabeth after she's left Pemberley.

And walking down the corridor with the dogs (after reprimanding Miss Bingley) and looking mighty pleased with himself. Ans have we had watching Lizzy from the window after he's taken his bath? Oh, and in the bath... The list is endless!

(Moon Dreams) And all the times he rides a horse: ... Agreed ... in this and in every other role he's played involving astride equine transportation! (**SIGH**)

OK - here's a difficult one: the LEAST favourite moment?

(Arami) ... the LEAST favourite moment? Poor guy ... having to deliver that line: "May I summon him?" :-)

(Arami) ... the LEAST favourite moment? Every moment in P&P without Darcy (okay, it's a cheap answer, I know). (Moon Dreams) And all the times he rides a horse: (KJArt) ... Agreed ... in this and in every other role he's played involving astride equine transportation! (**SIGH**) This is one of the compelling reasons that ODB simply must do Flashy...he's constantly astride - cantering, trotting, galloping - Arab horses, ponies, mules...and women.

I know I am out of sync with the above but I think the P&P0 version was made to capitalize on the popularity of Gone With The Wind. Hence the costumes etc. A. I love the scene where he walks around, sits down, gets up, walks around again, taking deep breaths all the time and then proposes to her at Huntsford cottage. b. When he sees Wickham the first time at Meryton, and sits back on his horse and rides stiffly away. C The way he stalks back to Rosings after she refuses him, we can just see his back but you can tell he is mad, frustrated and hurt just by watching him. D The look on his face when he is writing to Lizzie telling her about Wickham and Georgianna. In one scene he has tears in his eyes and shuts them to get rid of the tears. It makes me want to cry for him. E the look on his face as he slams the billard ball into the pocket after she leaves the doorway. The list goes on. I would say every scene he is in would suffice.

My favourite moments? Well, every one of you have already mentioned. Least favourite? The first ball, when he is so despising of everything around him(although I have acted in the same way, I'm sure)and (stone me) the toothy grin at the end.

Every moment in P&P without Darcy (okay, it's a cheap answer, I know). That'll do me. Please don't confuse cheapness with honesty! ;-) When he sees Wickham the first time at Meryton, and sits back on his horse and rides stiffly away. Oh, yes! How could I forget! That flash of noble indignation and disgust in his eyes - simply incomparable! The look on his face when he is writing to Lizzie... as he slams the billard ball... every scene he is in..." Yes, yes, YES!

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...The look on his face when he is writing to Lizzie telling her about Wickham and Georgianna. Inone scene he has tears in his eyes and shuts them to get rid of the tears. Gee, I'm gonna have to look at this one again..I don't remember those tears. Do you have DVD, Lucie? ***** Least Fave Moment: (Gi)....(stone me) the toothy grin at the end. Ya better duck!! :-D ***** Fave Moment.. (Lucie) (the look on his face as he slams the billard ball into the pocket after she leaves the doorway. Absolutely.....the most erotic moment in the whole thing.... The cue stick....the red ball....WOW...that Andrew Davies is quite a guy!!

.I don't remember those tears. No tears, I don't think. He's no cry-baby. Just deeply tormented.

(Gi) Least favourite? The first ball, when he is so despising of everything around him (although I have acted in the same way, I'm sure)... Oh, yes. Especially that look of contemptuous amusement at that gaffe made by Mr. Collins with Lizzy ... you just wanted to slap his gloating face!! and (stone me) the toothy grin at the end. Consider yourself stoned ... twice! ;-D . (Lucie) (the look on his face as he slams the billard ball into the pocket after she leaves the doorway. (Evelyn) Absolutely.....the most erotic moment in the whole thing.... Weeelllll..... (Evelyn) ... b) When he takes her hand as she leaves Pemberley with the Gardiners...(and the cameras zoom in on the hands....is that erotic, or what!!) (They only **touch** three times in 6 hours....what torment!) Closer ... closer ..... For me, the most erotic moment was The Look at Pemberley (small) ... Across a crowded room ... Absolutely electrifying!! 8-P~~~~~~~~

The hands touching at the Netherfield ball is the most electrifyingly erotic moment for me, followed by the "wham bam, thank you ma'am, red ball in the side pocket." ;-D

(Gi)....(stone me) the toothy grin at the end How could you? Gi....Wanna take it back? :-))))

No I don't have DVD. My son has it and I dion't like it. I love the look he gives Caroline when she is abusing Lizzie so abominably after she and the Gardiners leave Pemberley. If she had looked at him she might have shut up or choked. Talk about a drop dear dearie look.

One more try on that picture.....Count Almasy is at it again...could have sworn it came out the first time....

sorry...won't work :-(

Not exactly the same one, Evelyn, but here: What's wrong with this smile? Maybe it's your TV set, Gi. ;-D

Gi, I have to admit I am not a huge fan of the toothy grin either. I found it so shocking the first time I saw the film. He almost looks like a completely different person, not the Darcy of the "oh-so-subtle smile" we had come to know and love over the last five hours. But, the big smile look has grown on me over many repeated viewings.