Laura, I am afraid I don't know to both questions, just saw a notice advertising him being at this particular store on Sunday, but will try to find out.

(Evelyn)are we prepared for the current potential explosion in E. Europe?Perhaps as we speak? Please leave East Europe out of it. The Balkans are towards the east of *South Europe*.

(Evelyn)are we prepared for the current potential explosion in E. Europe?Perhaps as we speak? The Balkans are towards the east of *South Europe*, if you please.

And bomb this idiotic program as well!

And the UK is not part of Europe as the English put it:)

Steering us back to less contentious ground, Elena, re. the swearing in FP. I saw NH in a television interview, and he mentioned the scene in FP where Paul/Colin opens the window and yells "f*** off" and said that CF was ill-at-ease about doing it. Perhaps it doesn't come naturally to him! I do like CF as Paul, but I also agree with a comment that Allison (I think) made way, way back, that CF is perhaps better suited to roles with some gravitas. However I find him equally convincing in both kinds of roles. Kirsten, thanks for all the Tumbedown info.

And the UK is not part of Europe as the English put it:) The Balkans are towards the east of *South Europe*, if you please. Please leave East Europe out of it. The Balkans are towards the east of *South Europe What is this? "Trash Evelyn Day"? Can't I make a comment on this topic? Even if I have the wrong geographical terms? Sheeeesh!. (BTW Laura, did you receive the 3 DOR program I sent you)

BTW, the point behind the NH anecdote above, was that apparently a group of rather elderly P&P fans arrived at the FP shoot looking for Mr Darcy and were told by crew members that if they waited a while, Mr Darcy would look out of the window and speak to them! I reckon Colin must have lost a few fans! :-)

LMAO! (Even if I have heard that one before... Btw, I don't think Colin is necessarily averse to swearing - actors do it like troopers, believe me - but he certainly has a sense of the right time and place among other things, methinks.)

Bethan, LOL! Arami, to my southern european mind, the Balkans are more eastern than southern europe...even middle eastern...

(Bethan)NH...mentioned the scene in FP where Paul/Colin opens the window and yells "f*** off" and said that CF was ill-at-ease about doing it. Bethan, that was so sweet!! I loved it. I KNEW he�s not the swearing type or else he�d say those words in FP in a quite different way, whatever the situation. Believe me, I know, I swear like a trooper myself and that�s why I�m very attracted to men who don�t and can�t do it plausibly! Btw I don�t think it�s something that comes with your job, it�s a personality thing. (Allison)He�s better suited to roles with some gravitas EXactly. I�m desperately looking forward to one for a change.

(Allison)He�s better suited to roles with some gravitas EXactly. I�m desperately looking forward to one for a change. A shame he's not doing Syd.Carton, which is melodrama, but at least with some gravitas thrown in. Elena, I'm sure the sound of troopers swearing in Finnish is charming and genteel.:-). I'm not sure it's character, but it's certainly a habit that's hard to break. Going to football matches in England is not very conducive to self-reform.

(Ben) it's certainly a habit that's hard to break Voi perkele, you�re right.

Evelyn, no I have not rec'd booklet:( But I am anticipating it. Britny Spears donning her 17-year old underwear (not old underwear, her Underwear!) wasn't on the cover, was she. Oh right, that was my Rolling Stone! RE: Colin Firth feeling uncomfortable swearing. I have to disagree with Whoopi (Hollywood Squares joke for you non-Americans)on this on. He said in an interview he felt more like himself and not Mr Darcy. Don't ask me which interview its in one of them. RE: Swearing in general. Irish and British use the vulgar language like I say hello and goodbye in a day.

Laura, so far you have us (nous autres les Anglais) as Euro-hating and foul-mouthed. Is Colin, the clean-mouthed husband of an Italian, the exception that proves the rule? ;-)

(Ben)Is Colin, the clean-mouthed husband of an Italian, the exception that proves the rule? ;-) Did I say that? No, I didn't. As a rule, Brits and Irish use swear words in everyday language. As for the UK being Euro-hating, it's a well-documented fact. England, Scotland and Northern Ireland does not consider themselves as part of Europe or they would be using the infamous Euro! Do I care whether or not TDB swears? Not particularly. Do I care whether he has a clean mouth to his Italian-born wife. Again, not particularly. Am I being very sarcastic. Oh definitely!

I don't mean to say that not using the Euro is the only reason. It's well-known fact that UK is anti-Europe.

hmmmm.........

test? Yes, my dear. We cannot compete with Napolean and Hitler - these guys loved Europe so much they wanted to have the whole place to themselves. Two million Brits, dastardly Euro-sceptics that they are, died in the fields of France this century stopping these European heroes from uniting the continent. My grandfather, who lies buried in a cemetary in Bayeux, really should have known better. Seriously, though, I take issue with the view that the UK is anti-European, "well-known fact" though it may be. I might be fairly typical - v. much a European but distrustful of the EU and the Commission. I have vacationed in France, Germany and Italy umpteen times and I lived in Paris for a year. My best friends at grad. school were an Irishman and an Italian. I listen to French and German music, I read French and Russian literature. But all this has nothing, thank God, to do with the EU or the Euro.

Hey I didn't say you didn't like Europeans! I just said that UK is anti-being called Europe!

Hmmm.... are we developing an adversarial relationship? We must fix that!

Laura, NH is promoting his book "About a Boy"?

Thank you, Ann. Back to something that makes sense. Please, let's not get into this type of shit. There, I swear too.

Sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. No more self-righteous ranting, I promise. However, I cannot promise not to show off my new HTML skills.

Sorry, I broke a cardinal rule of mine and am now suffering poster's remorse. Lest anyone think I am a prude, I have no problem with a discussion on swearing. It can be a fairly effective way of getting one's point across when done with wit and skill though I myself don't get much beyond a few banal expletives bellowed from behind the safety of the steering wheel. It's gross generalizations that bother the bejesus out of me. But I should have waited 24 hours before putting fingers to the keyboard. And I probably shouldn't be posting this message either. Back to the subject at hand - Elena, did you think CF sounded forced during 3DOR when his dialogue contained a few of the more common swear words we hear daily?

(Gi) to my southern european mind, the Balkans are more eastern than southern europe...even middle eastern... To my Eastern European mind, I wasn't born anywhere near the Balkans... Judging from the map, it's definitely south-east. And having lived among the Brits for nearly half of my life, I often find them more European than some other Europeans...

(Arami) I often find them more European than some other Europeans And what the hell is European anyway. Sorry, I�m swearing again. Ben, do you happen to know any handy ways to break the habit? (Heide) did you think CF sounded forced during 3DOR �A fucking weather report�? Not really. Actually I�ve been thinking how funny it is to make guesses about an actor�s personality or his personal habits by what he does at work, he�s an ACTOR, dammit. Softness in Paul Ashworth can be intentional, just a careful construction, but at home Mr. Firth possibly swears like a trooper when he reads the morning paper, fails to attach things to the wall etc.! And remember, he claimed once that in real life he �DOESN�T SMOULDER�! That was just too devastating.

# 11 reason why Livia thinks Colin is not always wonderful: He swears too much. I wish I could add this to my original list. ;-)

Amazingly enough, my grandfather is from Montenegro and he considers it Southeastern Europe. Ah, Laura is part Serbian on my mom's side!

Elena, you ask about breaking the swearing habit.... I have learned only to curtail it in appropriate circumstances. Otherwise, I have taught myself, as if I were both Pavlov and his dog, to modify the words. Christmas! replaces Christ, as an exclamation, 'effing' stands in for f***ing, bloody I accept in myself, and wank and bollocks also slip through the net, as it were. 'For Pete's sake!', `blast' and 'hell's teeth' often come to my rescue. I'm hoping, as you can see, that quantity is no substitute for severity. Having said that, I sometimes go for it in French, the assumption being that no-one around me understands. Sometimes I am wrong.

(Laura)...he considers it Southeastern Europe Thank you, Laura, I'll take your granddad's opinion about it, he ought to know! :-) (Ben) I sometimes go for it in French, the assumption being that no-one around me understands. Sometimes I am wrong. LOL! I thought I was the only one...I sometimes swear in English, or in Spanish...and do it in England or Spain <-(

(Ben)I have learned only to curtail it in appropriate circumstances. I haven't even gotten that far yet. I'm still known for blurting out expletives in playgrounds full of toddlers (by accident, of course).

(Gi) Thank you, Laura, I'll take your granddad's opinion about it, he ought to know! :-) The only problem with this is that no self-respecting Montenegrin would call himself a Serb! :)

The only problem with this is that no self-respecting Montenegrin would call himself a Serb! :) ] But, he is Serbian. I don't think that's particularly funny!

He is one or the other. There is Montenegro and there is Serbia. They were only one place when they were Yugoslavia.

He is one or the other. There is Montenegro and there is Serbia. They were only one place when they were Yugoslavia. } But that's at the root of the problem over there. People's ethnicity does not correspond to the country they are living in. Just as my relatives are ethnically Macedonian, but have the unfortunate ;-) fate to have been born in Greece. So which are they, Greek? Macedonian? Macedonian Greeks (like African Americans?)

Thank you, Ann, my great grandfather left Serbia in the late early 1900s and settled in Montenegro. Technically, my grandfather is Serbian, but lived in Montenegro until he moved to the States.

sorry, early 1900s. don't know where the late came from!

(Ann)People's ethnicity does not correspond to the country they are living in. It's interesting, this discussion we've been having. It sort of wakes a lot of people up to the fact that multiculturalism and ethnic melting pots don't apply solely to North America or Western Europe. You know the largest Japanese population residing outside of Japan is in Brazil? And they've been there for generations. Armenians all over the Middle East as well. And, I have two generations of relatives in Saudi Arabia.

(Winter)..You know the largest Japanese population residing outside of Japan is in Brazil? Witness Fujimori, the president (ex-president?) of Peru. (Not Brazil, I know, but not far) Indians in East Africa, Welsh in Argentina,...Hell, I even spent the night north of the Thames, once. [This is a real wrench - it is easier for someone from Barnes to pass through the eye of a needle, or live in New York, than to spend much time on Hampstead Heath. Don't ask me why. Anyone else?] I've a general question for the film-focussed Firthettes on this board. Do you think Your Hero is capable of playing an action hero? A comic role? An extrovert? How do you think he could best be stretched (stop tittering and keep your answers clean)?

(Ben)How do you think he could best be stretched (stop tittering and keep your answers clean)? Damn! For split sec, I thought I could get away with something smart... Alright, alright...Spiderman and Superman are both in the pre-filming stages. Nicholas Cage has already been cast as Superman, though Spiderman is still up for grabs. I don't want ODB in an action role, that's the problem. After seeing Jeremy Northam in "Mimic" (action/sci-fi), my love for him has gradually been waning. Oooohhh....but I wouldn't mind seeing CF in the Mission:Impossible sequel (the first, w/ Tom Cruise, is a guilty pleasure).

Argentina has a very big Jewish Population as brother-in-law is Jewish and from Argentina.

Let's not confuse ethnicity with religion. Your grandfather being a Serb, who lived in Montenegro is of course possible and likely. He would have been an ethnic minority there, just as the Serbians are an ethnic minority in Kosovo. Unfortunately, in that part of the world, they just can't stop fighting about these things.

Ah, Laura, if I have a t-shirt made up for your next visit saying "Erin Go Dubrovnik" will you wear it at Fado's? ;-)

I don't want ODB in an action role, that's the problem.(Winter) Ditto. I'd hate to think of him enhancing his naturally athletic build by obsessive pec-building workouts in the gym....and he does have a slight tendency to trip over things!! Also, on the few occasions when he hits anyone onscreen, I've noticed that he always rubs his knuckles (in "real life", hitting hurts the hitter and the hittee). Now Bruce Willis never does that! Just can't imagine CF bursting forth, all barrels blazing... The downside is that for male actors, most roles on offer seem to be action movies!

(Ben)Do you think Your Hero is capable of playing an action hero? A comic role? An extrovert? How do you think he could best be stretched? I think he could play anything, really, he may not officially bea Method actor but he creates an empathy with his characters and is credible in anything he does. And since action heroes don't do their own stunts, he'd be alright :-)

He would be a great swashbuckler, Errol Flynn move over! Perhaps a re-make of my fav. comedy Bringing Up Baby, the Cary Grant role is perfect. Still, I would love to see him in more period pieces...I seek him here, I seek him there, frankly, I'd seek him anywhere. ;-)

he may not officially be a Method actor And whence does this information come, pray tell?

(Bethan)....re; Action roles....and he does have a slight tendency to trip over things!! LOL, Bethan. In 3 DOR I held my breath as he ran up the stairs!!! Only once did he mess up the rug and he went back and smoothed it out. But the best part was in the matinee when the stupid faucet top fell off and the water wouldn't stop running. He tried to turn it off with a blue cloth..finally went around and picked up the top from the floor and casually put it back...never missing a beat of the dialog.What a pro!!And I almost had an anxiety attack.

Ah, Laura, if I have a t-shirt made up for your next visit saying "Erin Go Dubrovnik" will you wear it at Fado's? ;-) But will anyone get it? I think it's hysterical! Yeah, I'll wear it.

Not that I'm that much of a grammar nazi, but shouldn't it me Dubrovnik Go Bragh? Isn't Erin Ireland? Just a warning, Laura. Some time ago, on these boards, in the winter of Firthette discontent, there was an ongoing spat about how ambitious on someone else's behalf it is decent to be. Some thought YDB too retiring. Without wishing to rekindle the argument, I will say that if Firth were substituted for Hugh Grant in any film role, the chances for all English actors in H-Wood would improve. Anyway, that unfortunate episode is long past, made glorious summer by Three Days of Rain.

(Evelyn)In 3 DOR I held my breath as he ran up the stairs!!! Oh yes, now that you mention it I realize that so did I! He did it in such a careless way, I can�t quite describe it. With big movements, without looking down to make sure he�s stepping where he should..... And the faucet top, he obviously used too much force with it. When it flew from his hand behind the table with a bang I really thought that a catastrophe was happening. But it�s possible that it wasn�t exactly a surprise for him, he handled the situation with such an amazing peace of mind, not looking baffled at all after it, was he. Maybe things like this happen to him every day and he�s used to fixing them!!

And didn�t he break his nose during the filming of P&P in a water tank or something?? Btw, in my Donmar pics he seems to have a bruise in his forehead exactly below the curl. It is not hair or a shadow, I�m sure of it. But still I�d like to see him in an action role, to be honest. Something very physical!Yes!

(Winter)I don't want ODB in an action role, that's the problem.(Winter) (Bethan) Ditto. I'd hate to think of him enhancing his naturally athletic build by obsessive pec-building workouts in the gym.. Not that I think this role is going anywhere but I'd classify Marked Man as an action role. There is such a thing as a "thinking man's" (or should I say woman's) action hero. Not that I wouldn't mind a peek at a washboard stomach but I don't think that's likely to happen. (Gi) I think he could play anything, really Absolutely agree. (Elena) Something very physical!Yes! Yes! Yes!! (Moon) Perhaps a re-make of my fav. comedy Bringing Up Baby, the Cary Grant role is perfect I can see him as the Cary Grant of the new Millenium.. ;-) Love to see him do his role in The Philadelphia Story too. (Ben) I will say that if Firth were substituted for Hugh Grant in any film role, the chances for all English actors in H-Wood would improve. I think that's the nicest thing you've ever said about our boy and I will admit you have been very kind. I agree wholeheartedly except for that excreble film (my memory blessedly has erased the name) with Julianne Moore about having a baby.

(Bethan) Ditto. I'd hate to think of him enhancing his naturally athletic build by obsessive pec-building workouts in the gym.. Sometimes the part calls for it though. Look at frail little Edward Norton. He bulked up and got an AA nomination for American History X and now is back to his slender little self. (Heide) There is such a thing as a "thinking man's" (or should I say woman's) action hero I agree. Still think CF would be great in espionage/thriller types (old LeCarre, Ludlum, etc.), but not the current incarnation of Mission Impossible. (Heide) I agree wholeheartedly except for that excreble film (my memory blessedly has erased the name) with Julianne Moore about having a baby. Then I won't restain it! ;-) Saw some trailers for Notting Hill; it looked cute. Very insiderish about the effects of celebrity. Shame that they had to put HG in it; hasn't Hollywood a clue that we don't want to see HG anymore!

I'm not really all that eager to see ODB accompanying numerous explosions, but a certain level of THE RIGHT action (i.e. horse-riding, fencing, swimming, etc would be acceptable. I'd love to see him in a combination action/satire!! (Just short of slapstick, of course!) Running around or crawling through the mud seems equally within his reach. Speaking of "reach" (Now don't laugh!) I read this neat (**shudder**) romance (regency-type) that involved the wounded in the Napoleonic wars and a lady's newly-found involvement with them. The hero is one of them. I read the book several times and could see CF in the title role more and more each time...with a little good screen adaptation I think it would make a marvelous vehicle for ODB...and don't groan unless you've read the book first...With this Ring by Carla Kelly. Oh, **SIGH**!

I agree wholeheartedly except for that excreble film (my memory blessedly has erased the name) with Julianne Moore about having a baby. Dreadful (nameless) film...I had to switch off because I was embarrassed. HG does all Englishmen a major disservice, with his "oh golly gosh" eyelash fluttering pseudo-diffidence. But, doesn't Notting Hill come out at about the same time as MLSF? I have a horrid feeling that the Englishman you're going to see on all your talk shows and adorning the front covers of movie mags will not be ODB! I thought that American women were supposed to love HG? Y-u-uch!

I've got it!! Opened the TV guide and "Sweet Bird of Youth" popped out at me. Early Paul Newman movies from the late 1950s to mid-1960s (pre-Cool Hand Luke). Colin would be great in those movies. Here are some: Torn Curtain and The Prize fit in with my espionage/thriller genre; From the Terrace; the Young Philadelphians; The Long, Hot Summer (Oooohhhhh my mouth waters at the idea of him playing Ben Quick); and of course Cat on a Hot Tin Roof!

(Bethan)I thought that American women were supposed to love HG? Get otta' here...who said.? HG a hunk....?"I would just as soon call his girlfriend a nun"!! He is popular because he is so ridiculous.People laugh **at**him. His one serious role...forget the title,.. played a doctor...anyway, it bombed.

Maybe she is a nun - that's why he had to seek assistance in Beverly Hills that night... I agree about HG. It's not so much his affected simpering that gets to me - though it does - it's simply that he can't act. I rather like the idea of CF as a spy, but he couldn't be Smiley. A Cary Grant type he could be. If only Hitch were still around.

(Karen) The Long, Hot Summer (Oooohhhhh my mouth waters at the idea of him playing Ben Quick); Yesssss.... one of my absolute favorite sexy roles. Would a Southern drawl be required? HG's charm lasts for about five minutes, then the act gets real stale. I have no idea who finds him attractive though I bet I'll hear from her real soon.

he may not officially be a Method actor (Arami)And whence does this information come, pray tell? I think I read it "somewhere", but I may be wrong. Anyway, Arami, we all seem to be ruffling your feathers these days, I don't know why, for my part it is not intended, so please take it easy, will you? :-)

Dear Gi - and all who may not actually care to remember my early days in Drool - my sole existence here is based on having my feathers ruffled! It is part of the tradition. I am the voice in the Drool wilderness... ;-) I think he is a method actor. He aims at identifying himself with the character he portrays (but only whilst he is acting, of course). He has said that it entails a lot of emotional suffering at times.

(Heide) Yesssss.... one of my absolute favorite sexy roles. Would a Southern drawl be required? Yes, but if Branagh could do it so well in The Gingerbread Man, so could Colin. How else could one make "hair" a two-syllable word (as in my favorite speech in TLHS)? ;-) You run. Run like hell. Buy a bus ticket and disappear. Change your name. Dye your hair. Get lost. Then, maybe, you'll be safe from me. Knew you'd go for sweaty, menacing and earthy, Ben Quick.

(Arami)Dear Gi - and all who may not actually care to remember my early days in Drool - my sole existence here is based on having my feathers ruffled! It is part of the tradition. Who said .."it's part of the tradition"...maybe yourtradition. All of the oldies can defend themselves v. well, but I agree with Gi... ."playing gotcha" might be fun for you...but my concern is that it puts newbies off. People should be able to give their opinions without having to document them every time.:-) Happy Palm Sunday everybody...:-)

Happy Palm Sunday everybody...:-) Oh, that's right! Thanks for reminding me, Evelyn. Gotta give mom a call...

(Evelyn)Who said .."it's part of the tradition"...maybe yourtradition. Are you trying to alienate me even more than I already am? ;-P People should be able to give their opinions without having to document them every time.:-) Even possibly mistaken opinions? People should be given a chance to modify their opinions whilst searching for the facts.

Even possibly mistaken opinions? No opinion is mistaken. One can disagree, politely.

(Arami)Evelyn)Who said .."it's part of the tradition"...maybe yourtradition. Are you trying to alienate me even more than I already am? ;-P I am sorry if you feel alienated,Arami...no one, IMO ,has gone out of the way to do so. I work v. hard to recruit new members for Spring and I don't want them to read some caustic remarks and be afraid to post. It takes a lot of courage for some newbies to post. I want Spring to be a friendly place...which it has been for a while now.

"Pray tell me.." is caustic??? And yes, opinions can be mistaken. Your opinion of me is completely off course. I am a sarky court jester. You are prigs. I am not mistaken - it's just my opinion and I am entitled to it - by your own decree. ;-DDD

Aw,C'mon Arami...get off it.

Isn't this Topic 98? Film Discussions? Or did I wander onto the Jerry Springer Show? ;-) Looks to me like we need a film to dissect instead of each other? Are we done with Tumbledown? Does anyone want to start Three Days of Rain while it is still reasonably fresh in our minds? Other ideas?

Before Ben, our grammar nazi, jumps in, the fourth question mark was a typing mistake. ;-)

Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry!

(Karen)I wander onto the Jerry Springer Show? ;-) (Jer-ry! Jer-ry! Jer-ry! In my opinion, I prefer Oprah...more class:-)

Jerry's final thought: Coooool it, willya!? ;-)

Spoilsports..... ;-P

I've been offline several weeks. I come here ot find some serious dicussion on Tumbledown and instead find brawls breaking out. Ouch! Will a new CF role be picked soon for discussion? I vote for Apartment Zero. It's one I actually have.

(Sue)I vote for Apartment Zero. It's one I actually have. That's one I'd be willing to discuss too. Slightly OT, but the first time I saw Apartment Zero was in a hotel room, on a teeny, tiny island north of Borneo, about two years ago. Couldn't flippin' believe I'd be watching a CF movie in, what seemed like, the remotest place in the world!

What about discussing 3DOR? Many have seen it and others have read the script. There is so much to talk about, afterwards, I would love to do Apt. 0, one of my all time fav. CF films.

Spring Pledge Drive Terry will gratefully accept any small donation you can make to help keep the Spring out of the hole. No obligations, of course, but if you're able to help out, a check can be made out to The Spring and mailed to: The Spring Rt.2 Box 56r Cedar Creek, TX 78612 I will post this at the other topics, so bear with the repetitions.

What, did this board dry up? I've been lurking for a few days, waiting for the decision on the next project for discussion. Will it be 3DOR? AZ? How about ATA?

OK, I want to say something about AZ. Saw it last night. Interesting! The movie truly is weird and quite disgusting, and the end of it.....well, I�ve seen better ones! A Psycho allusion. The attempts of twisted humour in the last part of the film were terrible and I felt that the movie started to lose its credibility badly at some point. But mostly I found it pretty good, very good at times, I mean that ominous quietness, long takes, effective close-ups to faces, intensive contact between actors, the surrealism. What was very interesting was to see Colin�s face that young. In AZ he looks so very very young, smooth faced, unbelievably innocent. I�ll never forget his boyish face and those deep bright eyes when Adrian comforts Jack in his agony. I think Colin is brilliant as Adrian and seems to fit perfectly into the nervous, vulnerable role. He keeps his face pretty expressionless and still it says so much. Well, AZ made me wish (again!) that he could get roles in better movies than SiL, where he could really put his talent to use in all its subtlety. Please, I�d like to hear what other people thought about Apartment Zero. Comments, anyone?

Btw isn�t it strange and miraculous that the same actor who did the touching role as Adrian was Darcy too?? And that stocky Wessex! And what�s more, Walker/Ned. I could almost say that it couldn�t be. Which reminds me, I�d like to know what Colin does to his weight when he needs to. He obviously weighed much more as Wessex than he did in Donmar as the lean Walker. Or maybe it�s just the costume and hairdo & makeup that makes an actor look so different every time.

AZ is a quirky film..got a lot of good reviews but not from me when I first saw it. It has grown on me a lot. Since I've given it more of a chance, I've always found something new in the dialog or in his expression that I hadn't seen before. Yes, what a chameleon and not just in his appearance. What did he do to his voice?

(Elena) I felt that the movie started to lose its credibility badly at some point Yeah, I started losing patience when they cut up the girl and stuffed her into the trunk. But CF is marvelous. "Mother!"

(Elena)I�d like to know what Colin does to his weight when he needs to Well, think of the topmodels: beautiful on television, horribly thin in real life. Film adds a couple of kilos to you.

(Eileen)Yeah, I started losing patience when they cut up the girl Exactly, the chiropractical humour by the trunk was the last straw, after that the movie can�t be taken seriously for a second. The director possibly meant it to be a part of the surrealism but I don�t think it worked, rather it�s a mistake and ruins everything after it. Just like the scene where the transvestite is revealed to be a guy, it�s ridiculously out of place. But Adrian�s role was like made for Colin.

I also thought things were getting out of hand when Adrian fell over the balcony. I thought he was dead--how he survived that far a fall with just a gash on his head and no broken bones is beyond me. That came before the cut up girl, right? It was funny how the neighbors hung over the railing and gaped at him. What an odd bunch (I suppose that was the point).

OK, then I guess it's official: We are discussing Apartment Zero. That's good, now I'm going to HAVE to rewatch it.

then I guess it's official: We are discussing Apartment Zero. That's good, now I'm going to HAVE to rewatch it. Me too. But please let's not forget 3 DOR. I want to do that one sometime...before we forget it...no film to go back to, you know. (Oh why didn't we rent a camcord in London!!!)

Well, should we set up a new topic dedicated to 3DoR?

Hmmm.... we must all be studying Apartment Zero. I mean to do it myself one of these days. In the meantime, by all means discuss Three Days of Rain here. Or Fever Pitch or The Advocate or whatever. No reason why we can't keep concurrent discussions going. Thinking of Apartment Zero, how many other films has Colin made in which he has a mother fixation? Back to the VCR for me.

I think by today/tomorrow (depending on time zone) everyone will be back in town. What will our next discussion be? Three Days of Rain or Apartment Zero There was interest in both, even to the point of setting up a new topic. Let's hear from those who will be participating or who "think" they might participate! ;-)

I think it would be nice to do 3DOR since it is still fresh in so many minds. ;-) I did not see the play but have read the script and would enjoy disecting it.

I would participate in an Apartment Zero discussion. I was not lucky enough to see 3DOR nor have I read the screenplay, but would enjoy reading the discussion on it. I think you should discuss it before everyone forgets all the little things in the play.

My vote for 3DoR for the simple reason I haven't seen Apartment 0... Selfish, but I'd like to be able to contribute to the discussion (have hardly been able to do so in this topic to date) :-) But will lurk (!) happily if you decide otherwise ;-)

Actually, I'm so pressed for time I probably should vote for Apt 0!

Agree with all who would rather discuss 3DOR. AZ's a film so that can wait.

(Sue)I think you should discuss it before everyone forgets all the little things in the play. I agree with Sue. We can rewind and check things in video. Nothing brings back a memory. Get to work, you lucky ladies and we will bask again in your light.